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Live steam models on 7¼" gauge of the Württembergische T3 and on 5"gauge Great Eastern Railway Y14 class

Welcome to this blog. It will inform you about the progress of designing and building live steam model locomotives. The blog contains the description of a model Würrtembergische T3 on 7¼" gauge (constructed between 2006 and 2017), the wagons for this loco (built between 2018 and 2022), and the current project a 5" gauge model of a Great Eastern Railway Y14 class loco (started in 2020)

On the left you'll find the index where you can browse the different articles and on the right you'll find all the extras.  You'll find a brief description of my other locos on the top tabs.
 

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T3 7¼" steam locomotive 
 
Enjoy this site. Erik-Jan Stroetinga. The Netherlands. Europe.

Wednesday, 7 February 2024

Boiler Y14 part 3, Smokebox tubeplate and throatplate



As the boiler parts are being made, the drawing gets attention too. 


The smokebox tubeplate is a relatively simple affair to make. In fact, these round plates were one of the first things my dad and I made in the early eighties when we started metalworking and model engineering. At that time it was our first experience in copper working, but the plates we made then were used as base plate for candle stick holders 😀. 




 A piece of 3 mm copper is cut into a circle. A surplus of about 10 mm is added to the final diameter. This will be the edge (or rim).  

Heating up does not take much time, but several heatings are necessary because the material will be compressed quite a lot. The 3 mm thickness increases to almost 3.5 mm on the edge. 

To have a close fit to the boiler barrel, the edge is shimmed off to the final diameter. 

Support in the lathe is the steel former on which it was hammered and a wooden block to firmly hold it pressed on the former. Light cuts were taken. 

An impression of size.



The throat plate.


The throat plate takes up a lot of more work and time. First, a piece of copper is flanged, the same way as the boiler back head plate. 

Then a second former plate is needed, made of a piece of scrap aluminum, for the outer rim. 

A circle is marked out.........

..... and cut by hacksaw and file. 


Positioning it on the former, where care should be taken to center it on the former and put it on the correct height. 

After clamping it in the vice, the first hammering session brings it into shape. Here the material is stretched, instead of compressed. 

There fore several annealing operations are necessary. 

The final forming operation (all done by hammering).

The rim (12 mm wide) is marked out and filed to height. 

The edges are still 3mm thick and will of course not fit in the small gap between boiler shell and wrapper. 

First, the overall height is marked out and cut to size.

An angle grinder is used for trimming down the thickness of these edges. They will start at the original thickness of  3 mm and be ground down to approx 0.5 mm. This way they will fit as close as possible in the wedge-shaped gap between the boiler barrel and outer wrapper. 

By test fitting, it becomes clear where to remove excess material. 

After a few fittings and grinding operations, the throat plate slides in the gap. 

A few final light taps with the hammer, ensures a close fit to the boiler. 

The wrapper is now cut to length. 

Holding it in the vice, with the aid of the forming block, makes it possible to file it to the correct length and square to the sides. 

Once this was done, the throat plate itself was marked off and cut to size. 

The final operation is the cutting of the edge. 

Roughly done with the angle grinder, and finished with a file. 

Almost there. The round corners of the outer wrapper can be made a bit shorter (closer to the rim of the throat plate).

Seen from the inside: a nice fit of both. 

Wrapper, boiler shell and throat plate in position. 

With an overall length of 441 mm, it is indeed for a 5-inch gauge locomotive a small boiler. All in all the size isn't that much different than that of my 5-inch GWR 14xx class loco. 









Still a lot to do 😃


If you want to know more about the construction and parts of a live steam boiler: this site provides some explanations: